In karate classes, they teach jump kicks. and in taekwondo too. The UFC dudes who try jump kicks always fail thus the UFC thinks jump kicks are a waste of time.
Then why Karate and Taekwondo and many eastern martial arts still teach them ..and i think they regard them as efficient.|||Fact of the matter is those kinds of kicks arent very effective against trained fighters and are easily blocked or even worse countered. In a self defense scenario those kinds of strikes may work, but 90% of the time all that those types of strikes will do is put you in a bad position and an even worse situation|||mma fighters are too good at protecting their jaw... and going for the takedown... it is not that these techniques are worthless... but they dont work well against trined fighters..|||As several of the other people have said they can be very effective if the person using it has really good kicking skill. I have seen at least two fights recently in the UFC ended by jump spinning side kicks. Most fighters don%26#039;t come from a background where they can execute such a technique with accuracy and speed needed to land it. Against an unsuspecting, untrained, average guy in the street they have way more chance of being effective since many people tend to %26quot;freeze%26quot; and literally stand and watch the kick as it is hitting them. Also the power that you can generate in them can be devastating if landed solidly.|||Jump kicks are low percentage moves. It%26#039;s hard to actually land them. And missing leaves you extremely exposed to all sorts of nasty takedown-related counters.
But they are actually used in the UFC. The middleweight champion, Anderson Silva, used them in his last two fights.
But lets face it... Karate and TKD sparring competition is a sport. UFC is definitely a sport. The moves that are effective within the realm of a sport is defined in large part by the rules. Bobbing and weaving works great in boxing, since you can%26#039;t kick or knee, but that got Nogueira dropped in his last fight against Herring (via roundhouse kick). Likewise, in a sport that allows takedowns, jumping kicks aren%26#039;t the most effective of techniques. However, they definitely can be utilized.|||They dont take you down and ground and pound u in karate...
Why risk falling down with a fancy move???|||Because they ARE effective, if used in the right circumstance. They would even be effective in UFC fights if used properly and AT THE RIGHT TIME, which usually ISN%26#039;T when your opponet has his full faculties about him. Many, if not most, UFC fighters have at least SOME grounding in traditional martial arts, and know how to %26quot;read%26quot; an attack. Some of them are better than others; these guys are normally the ones who emerge victorious from the matches. And they are usually looking for ANY opportunity to take an opponent down to the ground, and ducking under a jump kick to grab the base leg is a perfect opportunity. However, in a situation where an opponent is reeling late in the match, a quick jump front snap kick might actually have some effect.
The problem is, the UFC is not comprised of people who study martial arts to learn martial arts; the UFC is populated mostly with guys who study as many martial arts techniques as possible in order to learn how to fight successfully in their sport.
Consider this as well: if you happen to get into a fight OUTSIDE of a UFC cage, and decide to kick your attacker, and he grabs your leg, he has commited to holding your leg with both hands, not realizing that you also have the skill to jump off the ground and kick him with the OTHER leg or perform a scissor kick takedown. The techniques are taught because they have been proven historically to be extremely effective, regardless of what people with little actual knowledge, other than what they hear %26quot;on the street%26quot;|||Jumping kicks can work a jumping snap kick can break a persons jaw, and a jumping outer crescent kick can make someone see stars. But the kicks would most likely be stop or counted by someone who can read the attack or had knowledge of martial arts. So using them in UFC with a person who has advanced knowledge in at most one martial art that could read the movement it would work about 1% of the time.
But if used out on the street on someone who had very little or no knowledge the kick might win the fight for you or give you time to run away or gain a more practical footing to launch another attack. So just because the moves might not be pratical in the UFC ring does not mean that they are inefficient everywhere else.|||Maybe they won%26#039;t work against a professionally trained UFC fighter, but I bet if you did one of them fancy kicks against some guy who stepped on your shoes at the club it would work.|||theres no grappleing in karate|||Alpham and Duzan are wrong. Many traditional style of karate do incorperat grappling and fighting in a clinch. PLEASE DO NOT SAY WHAT IS NOT TRUE, OR DO SOME RESEARCH. It does however take in depth study of the kata to learn these applications. As for jump kicks, not all karate style have them, nor would I use one on the street, unless the situation was very specific. they can be effective, but can get you in a whole lot of trouble. We only have one jump kick in our katas, a front jump kick. I have used it in point sparring and landed it effectively, but also got dumped on my butt for it. I know it was put in our kata to teach you to cover distance quickly, and the first kick is actually a fake to get your opponent to drop his gaurd and open up for the second kick, but I doubt if I would ever use it for real.
It does however help you learn coordination and balance.|||well most guys in MMA are not kickers anyways
what makes think that it would work
you gotta let the specialist do it. many guys with kick boxing background do flying knee kicks all the time
you are not supposed to high and fall on your back
jump slight to increase power and speed|||those moves have little success in the octagon, considered flashy for such a reason.....you have to have a really drowned oppo. or catch someone off guard
where to as karate matched/tournaments--those kicks are regulated through scoring...and the people are guarded so being struck with one isn%26#039;t as bad a in MMA fights
MMA scenario: J goes for an axe kick
M moves in time and does a jumping back roundhouse
J is struck in chin and dazes off
M rushes him with barrage of combos until ref stops him
Karate scenario: J does an axe kick
M moves out the way and does the same kick as above
J is struck
Fight is stopped to reward point to M
then it is started again....
Killing some wac shi-Kanye|||in karate , there are rules, punches to the head arent allowed, and moreover thy dont do takedowns and ground fighting , when you prep yourself for a jump kick, or any fancy kicks, you get taken to the ground and get pounded, and as a general saying in martial arts, anything too fancy is only for the movies and doesnt work in the streets.|||These kicks can be effective under the right circumstances. I have used them effectively in competition many times. UFC fighters are defined by the rules of competition. If you notice many claim Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) as the style they studied. This means they have learned an eclectic series of strikes and grappling that will hopefully make them a winner in the octagon. If forced to use your self defense training in a real life situation you should realize that jumping kicks are not usually practical. I advocate low kicks to take away the opponents base. In a training environment the high %26quot;fancy%26quot; kicks help a student push the limits of what he/she believes their body can do. Such kicks help push them to strain and achieve greater body control and understanding.|||DIFFERENT RULES DIFFERENT SPORTS BUDDY|||Simply said, they weren%26#039;t performed very cleverly or very well. It%26#039;s very hard to perform a jumping spinning kick from a ready position as an attacking technique. The attacker must not telegraph at all and must have very springy, athletic legs. That being said, it is faster to spin in the air than it is to spin on one foot--less friction and easier follow-through. So when a jumping, spinning kick connects, it%26#039;s usually a knock out.
However, it is far smarter to camouflage the technique by making the windup for it look like something else, or to distract your opponent in some way (a punch to the eye works.)
Alternatively, it would be wise to use it when the opponent has committed himself already in some way. An example might be when the opponent kicks low or does an iron broom movement, the jump clears the attacking leg or entire opponent to hit the opponent (or someone behind him) in the head.
Originally, flying kicks were used to jump over weapons intending to cut your legs off, or to unhorse warriors on horseback. %26quot;Common Sense%26quot; rules.
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Who says karate has no grappling? In every single traditional karate kata, every position represents the end to or the beginning of the next (1) block, (2) simultaneous attack, (3) lock, break, choke, or armlock, (4) throw and (5) ready position.
Of course the action happens in between positions, but it is in understanding the setups of the positions that the kata are decoded into techniques. It is understanding the mechanical efficiencies of the correct positions that the techniques have the power and leverage to actually work.
People not qualified should not spread repeat nonsense which they have heard. Do some research before answering, please.
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