It probably depends on the practitioner - but one martial art might be better suited for street combat than the other. Your thoughts?|||I have done both and I have to say that Aikido takes a lot longer to get good at. So at least at the pre-black belt level and probably pre-sandan (3rd degree) black belt Karate is more practical for street fight.
Still Aikido has many benefits as a second art for Karateka. Namely it will help you with Bunkai, circular movements, and the joint locks are also helpful and fun.
As too the ignorant comment about Karate not practicing against moving targets, dude you either don%26#039;t know what you are talking about or have only seen %26quot;Karate%26quot; practiced at some McDojo.
REAL Karate practices against moving and fully resisting apponent(s), usually with full contact.|||I find that neither Karate nor Aikido are effective in a street fight. The reason for this is like asking if european style boxing or Chinese boxing is better to help you swim. The reality comes down to one how well versed that person is in their chosen disciple and two how able are they to apply their chosen disciple to an ever changing terrain, situation and other real world environmental changes. If and only if this is possible then any art martial or otherwise can be used in a street fight were their are no rules.
Just think of if one is versed in the use and application of both Sun Tzu%26#039;s Art of War and never went in to a dojo, dojan, Quando or gym could that person be more effective in understanding how to fight than a person that goes to a class two times a week for a year? Does that person who not only thinks tactically verse someone who thinks strategically at more advantaged than a person in a random situation of violent crime? The question should not be as to what style is more suited for combat but which would aid them in to avoiding said conflict, and why?|||This has no answer. Martial arts are nothing without someone to practice them. Naturally these practitioners will be of different skill levels. They will also hold different beliefs that may or may not help them in street combat. If I was to say Wushu is better then Ninjitsu, but nobody practiced either art then neither could win.
In street combat the victor is determined by a few things:
1.) numbers - 15 on 1 is not fair, that is why it works so well.
2.) Weapons - The solution to numbers is weapons. 15 people verses 1 person will lose to the one person crazy enough to carry a hand grenade.
3.) Surprise - the solution to weapons. If a person with an AK-47 doesn%26#039;t know they are being assassinated then naturally they will lose the fight.
please note that all of the above is very overboard to make my point as clear as possible. If you want to win a street fight there is only one rule. CHEAT!
Hails to the truth,
Silence|||As katana pointed out, you answered your own question.
The practitioner is what matters, plain and simple.
But, just to add fuel to the fire, I cannot help but say my own opinion.
Aikido is an art that was designed by a master at the height of his experience and skill and then they expect normal students to be able to achieve his level... with all the ki and the harmonizing with the opponent ideals... but it just doesn%26#039;t happen that way... so, unless the Aikido practitioner is extremely skilled, or the karate ka is extremely inept, I would wager on the Karate person every time.|||You answered your own question. It is entirely up to the person and how well and realisticly they have trained what they know. Karate(Many different styles) and Akido can both be very effective for self defense, but without the training and knowledge behind them, they are just dances that look cool.
I should not be amazed anymore at the level of ignorence by many who respond to questions anymore.|||karate is typically less effective in my experience, as the few karate sensei/instructors ive seen have never put alot of emphasis on your opponent as a moving target, rather than simply teaching a punch a kick and blocks
aikido would probably be more effective as it anticipates someone attacking you, and would develop your ability to respond to an attack such as a punch or a kick specifically
aikido is not meant for attacking someone but is an excellent art for defending yourself in realworld scenarios like street fights/combat like youre talking about|||I%26#039;ve been practicing Hung Gar Gung Fu, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Tai Chi Chuan, and Seven Star Praying Mantis for 31 years. The Hung Gar system practices joint locks, throws, strikes, kicks, elbows, knees, many weapons, along with many other things. One thing I can say with my experience as a full contact fighter is, it is very difficult to handle and full speed strike from a experience attacker and do some type of joint lock and throw. I have a very high ranking friend in the Aikido style that I consider to be very good. However, when it comes time to stop a full speed combination of strikes I always have the upper hand. Also, he can%26#039;t handle my Jiu-Jitsu. Once grabbed he is in big trouble. My opinion is that Aikido is a great art however you need to compliment it with something else. Check my website, Chinesemartialartsacademy.com
Thanks =) Sifu Chris|||In present aikido has been shwn at movise af steaven seagal. As you balance aikido and karate, aikido can defend himself a little, he can attack but not much power to hit the enemy. well Karate is best in streetfight.|||I%26#039;ve done both -I would say that Karate would be more useful. Just because the training itself has been more practical in Karate-in Aikido, the practicality of the techniques%26#039; application was somewhat limited, or at least less realistic.|||It really does depend on the practitioner. No such thing as %26quot;better%26quot; when it comes to defense. Either you know it well enough to apply it, or not. Both are equal when it comes to defensive tactics.|||it depends on the practioner but in saying that ive done both and am currently doing akido and tkd(again) and i would say karate has been of more use to me personally.|||i would say karate is better for a street fight cause you will learn how to block but also attack wich is the flip side to karate wich people dont understand|||aikido is more effective if its more originally learned because it carrys karate movements too like u can see bruce lee|||First of all Aikido is not a fighting art, and you do not even need a martial art to attack and injure the toughest enemy. What you need is to train hard and be tough and be confident, that%26#039;s it to attack. Neither Aikido nor Karate are suited for a street fight, nor is any martial art that caannot counter weapons. If you are in either Aikido or Karate ask the sensei what he would do against a MMA using everything that is illegal in a contest against him, what he would do? That means fish hooking, biting, eye gouges, strikes to the neck and throat, neck twisting and breaks, breaking small joints, kicks to the testicles etc. He might tell you his enourmus storage of Ki would allow him to turn into Superman or some other fantasy, but the truth of reality is most Aikido instructors themselves would not be able to defend themselves against the average person armed with a weapon such as a knife and doing all those illegal things to them, let alone against a qualified instructor (Guro) trained in FMA using a weapon. Neither would 99% of other martial arts instructors. You have to realize that most fights that go to the ground you have a chance of dieing, so stay on your feet and watch your back. Wepons rule in the street. Always have and always will. Also, the element of surprise. If you don%26#039;t know how to defend against the element of surprise guess what happens? When you feel fear (unless it is imaginary) it is a warning to leave if possible and be able and willing to kill if need be to survive. Self defense isn%26#039;t about seeing who is toughest. Tell the bully types, %26quot;more power to them,%26quot; or %26quot;I am too busy,%26quot; and walk away. Don%26#039;t follow someone or be taken anywhere against your will. Refuse. It can be an ambush or worse. Muay Thai is being used now in the MMA because it is proven effective as a sport, but it is also good because you can remain on your feet in a real fight too using strikes and Muay Thai kicks. Closed fist strikes to the face are not a good idea due to the possibility of getting their blood into a cut or wound. Empty hand fighting is or should be a last resort.
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