I%26#039;m thinking about taking ju jitsu classes, but I would like to know what it has to offer?|||From a self defense standpoint they are very similar in that they are both Japanese, empty handed, %26quot;hard%26quot; martial arts focusing on technique and power and many of the self defense moves are the same.
From a sport standpoint, they are totally different. Jiu Jitsu is ground grappling where the object of the game is to obtain a submission using joint locks and chokes - strikes are not allowed. Karate is a striking sport where opponents look to defeat each other with kicks, punches, and certain other hand techniques. In Karate, grappling, chokes, and submissions are not allowed.
So even they are both have very like self defense techniques - they are almost opposites when it comes to sport. Judo also falls into the same category as having many of the traditional Jujutsu Samarai self defense moves like Karate and Jiu Jitsu, but Judo is totally different from the two in sport because it is judged on throws, sweeps, and takedowns.|||Both styles have striking and grappling, although both emphasize one more than the other. Karate is mostly strikes with grappling used primarily defensively and to escape from a grappler. Also, most of Karate%26#039;s grappling is stand up stuff, and most of that is locking, tripping and throwing.
Jiu Jitsu, is primarily throws and it also has ground techniques. Most of the locking and choking that goes on in Jiu Jitsu is primarily done on the ground, and BJJ I know does not emphasize throws and trips as much. Pretty much the majority of east asian styles use both grappling and striking actually, its just that some are strictly grappling, and some are strictly striking.
As to the effectiveness of Karate, the reason it allegedly has been shown to be less effective than BJJ is because wereas in tourneys BJJ exponents practice with all of their art%26#039;s weapons, in Karate the exponents are restricted only to strikes because the grappling in Karate is too dangerous to use in sports.
There is a joint lock in Karate, done standing up, that is actually very similar BJJ%26#039;s %26quot;the kimura,%26quot; which is actually a lock from Judo. Given a choice, I would rather be on the ground and be the victim of a %26quot;Kimura%26quot; lock, than be standing up and be the victim of it. Standing up joint locks are a lot more painful than on the ground, because if the positioning is just right, your body%26#039;s weight can bear down on the lock to help out whoever is applying it on you.
Because of that danger, said locks are neither practiced nor perfected in sparring in Karate. One martial art, restricted to only one aspect, going up against a martial art only restrcited by about 10% of its overall moves, the martial art that allows as much as 90% of what its got in tourneys, is going to win.
Believe me though; BJJ exponents have yet to defeat a traditional Okinawan Karateka in a bare fisted test of strength. I can also guarantee, most of the Okinawan Karateka ranked above 4th dan could probably easily defeat any of the Gracies using stand up locks.
It all boils down to how much you respect tradition, and how hard you practice. Then there is also meditation.
But hey, go for it; its good to have an arsenal of both stand up and ground if you ask me, it can take forever to develop the focus necessary so that using Karate you are NEVER taken down to the ground. Its faster and easier to simply work with your body%26#039;s natural instincts because ultimately, all primates are grapplers.
Go to youtube, and look for any large primates fighting, then, open another window, look for high school wrestling, or even BJJ. You will notice that large primates, human%26#039;s closest relatives according to evolution, are also natural grapplers. BJJ helps you defend yourself faster because again; if humans are primates, or even if you don%26#039;t believe in that, human hands were made for grasping, not striking.
If we were meant to do Karate we would all have been born with a turtle-shell like structure on our torso, and clubs for hands. You do Karate and you do something that works against human nature. Do Jiu Jitsu and you work with it, so you get better and more competent faster.
peace.|||Karate is very standard, %26#039;stand-up fighting%26#039; on your feet, but if youre knocked on the ground, karate pretty much goes out the window, and thats where Ju-Jitsu comes in. Ju-jitsu is basically the %26#039;karate%26#039; of ground fighting. Its fun, but a lot of hard work, so prepare to get very up close and personal with the floor mat.|||Most of the answers I saw related to BJJ and if that is your interest, BJJ is primarily a ground game like they all said.
My ryu has both jujutsu (Japanese) and karate. The differences are more subtle. In fact, both arts include blocking, striking, kicking, joint locks/destruction, and throws. The difference is in how they are utilized and in some cases how they are executed.
In jujutsu, we use a lot of soft strikes while moving to cause pain and distract our opponent while moving to positions of more control like joint lock/joint destruction, or throws. Karate on the other hand uses joint pain to set up hard strikes from a anchored position.
Both jujutsu and karate have throws, though many people don%26#039;t recognize the throws in karate kata. In jujutsu you break your opponents balance, often with pain or strikes, and throw him with minimum effort. In karate, the throws are more strength oriented and my karateka friends refer to throws as hitting you with the ground.
In general boths arts in our ryu follow the same philosophy of self defense and escelation of violence. I do only what you force me to do. I block first and throw only as a last resort. In jujutsu the sequence is normally: block, strike, take the joint, throw. In karate is is more like: block, strike, strike, take the joint, strike, strike, throw.|||jiu jitsu is more of a ground fighting self defense and is very effective, i think karate is just stand up self defense|||Ju jitsu is more on the ground, like reslting.... karate is more formed and on feet.|||Day and Night.|||First, let me clarify something about Jujitsu:
Brazilian Jujitsu and traditional Jujitsu are COMPLETELY different. Brazilian Jujitsu is a relatively recently developed martial art (as far as martial arts go). It has lots of groundwork and submission techniques as well as strikes and is often seen in UFC competitions as a dominating style. If you would like to learn more about BJJ please check out the first source. The Gracie family is certainly the most famous BJJ family, and in my opinion, they are the most reputable.
Traditional Jujitsu was developed on mainland Japan hundreds of years ago and was used as a self defense by the samurai. Unlike BJJ and karate, it uses weapons such as naginata, katana, and the hanbo. In addition to weapons trainig, traditional Jujitsu has ground work, falling, throwing, joint locks, submissions, as well as striking. This means that Traditional jujitsu, is a complete martial arts system. If you are interested in traditional Japanese Jujitsu, check out the second link below.
As for karate, it developed isolated from mainland jujitsu on the tiny southern island of Okinawa. Its roots go back hundreds of years to Chinese kung-fu as well as to an ancient indiginous marital arts style of Okinawa. A GOOD modern karate dojo (and stress put on good here) will offer an education in self defense using striking, blocking and to a lesser degree, throwing and submission techniques. The one biggest difference between traditional jujitsu and karate is that karate is the art of the %26quot;empty hand%26quot; or fighting without weapons. Karate fighters learn from training how to defend against weapons, they just don%26#039;t bring them to the fight. This is because for a long time, weapons were forbidden in okinawa and those living there came up with karate to defend themselves. If you are interested in karate, please check out the last link below. JKA is one of the largest organizations in the world, and was founded by Funakoshi Gichin who is called by many %26quot;the father of modern karate.%26quot; However, let it be noted that there are also other traditional styles of karate apart from those depicted on this website.
Also, let me address this issue briefly:
The reason many novices mistakenly believe that karate fighters are bad at ground work is because it is simply not aplicable in real-life multiple attacker situations to go to the ground. Although long, drawn out ground work may be an effective way to fight a single opponent, by staying upright the karate fighter is able to take on multiple opponents more easily. If you notice, not many BJJ fighters practice fighting multiple opponents, however it is a center of traditional karate training.
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